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12/09/2005
18:31:17

Subject: RE: opinions on amsoil????
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Hey amsoil guy ... can you type anything yourself or just cut and paste crap ? Where is the proof that it was the first to pass the API in 1972 ?



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12/09/2005
19:29:33

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Mr. Snake Oil,

I was wondering how long before I was "flamed' (which happens so often on this site).

Feel free to try and prove me wrong.

For 32 years ... Amsoil has made the following statement ...

AMSOIL developed the first synthetic motor oil to pass American Petroleum Institute (API) service requirements in 1972, and was the first company to market synthetic oils for passenger vehicles.

Amsoil has NEVER been the subject of FTC investigations, fines, etc., and no other major oil company can make that statement. If Amsoil's comments were false, Amsoil would have been issued a Cease and Desist letter.
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P.S. ---- This post was NOT cut-and-paste ... however, if a question is asked that I have the answer to in another file ( or from another source such as Amsoil Literature ) ... I have the right to use it at any time. I am NOT here to recreate the world ... only to share information with everyone so that perhaps Amsoil will be their synthetic lubricant of choice.
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Thank You, Steven Roark, Amsoil Dealer # 1061837



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AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products



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12/09/2005
20:09:32

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So what your saying is that you have no proof. Show me documentation from the American Petroleum Institute. I dont care what "statement" Amsoil has been making. Hell.. Mobil-1 makes a "statement" that they are "The oil thats changing oil".... does that mean they are right?



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12/09/2005
22:38:41

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I found all that information on their corporate website along with links to third part articles on their products. This includes interviews, testing, etc.

Their API testing of their motor oils is particularly interesting: http://www.amsoil.com/performancetests/g1971/index.aspx (Sorry, but I don't know how to put in a clickable url)

If their saying that AMSOIL developed the first synthetic motor oil to pass American Petroleum Institute (API) service requirements in 1972, and was the first company to market synthetic oils for passenger vehicles, then it would have to be the truth; otherwise, they would not be able to use that statement in their business and they would be sued by every Tom, Dick, and Harry out there for "misleading statements" and whatnot.

They would also have the Better Business Bureau on their backs and have a rating of a dustmite. I checked the BBB postings on various AMSOIL dealers and the general company profile. All are amiable.



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12/12/2005
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The only reason AMSOIL was the first synthetic motor oil to pass American Petroleum Institute (API) service requirements in 1972 was because they were the first in line and knew someone on the "inside" that wanted to be part of their pyrimid marketing.



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5/15/2007
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For what it's worth, I started researching AMZOIL(This is the way it was spelled originally!)and I had managed to acquire the official 1972 AMZOIL API oil testing results on the AMZOIL SAE 10/30 100% Synthetic oil. Therefore, I can vouch for the fact, that it is definately true, that AMZOIL was the first sythetic oil to undergoe and to pass the API oil testing! Mobil 1 wasn't even in the picture until around 1974-75!



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5/15/2007
16:32:45

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Not knocking Amsoil, I'm sure it's a good product, but ad copy is just that-made to make one's product look as good as possible.
Notice Amsoil was the first to pass the API's tests. As said before, it was the first to be submitted. Note in an earlier post Mobil's synthetic was created in the late 50s, it just didn't get submitted to the API.

IIRC Motorcycle Consumer News has done a lot of independant oil testing, but I don't remember if Amsoil was included in same. Check their website, they may have it archived.



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5/15/2007
20:03:24

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sooooooooo sick and tired of this steve and his amsoil crap!!!!!!!!



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5/16/2007
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You know if it's too much for you to read about AMSOIL...

You anonymous flamers (of some sorts) do realize that you could just IGNORE any post with the word AMSOIL in the subject right???





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12/16/2007
22:58:01

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PROOF POSITIVE

Amsoil is Approved for Dakotas and other Dodge vehicles:

DODGE DEALERSHIPS NOW CARRY AMSOIL

here is the thread on this forum:

http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/gen/16998.html




I LEARNED THE TRUTH ABOUT API


All vehicle manufacturers in the U.S. have agreed that a warranty cannot be denied because a customer was using any particular brand of oil that meets specifications, unless an engine failure was directly attributable to the fluid. If it is not a fluid related failure, they cannot void the warranty. The law supports this position.

Plus, the dealer/manufacturer has no way of telling what fluid you are using. How do I know? I am a former aircraft technician. I too was sceptical in the beginning. But now I am a believer.


Amsoil meets and exceeds API specs.

USE AMSOIL WITH CONFIDENCE!!!!!!!!!



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12/16/2007
23:17:42

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looks like stan/shatto really enjoys talking to himself

and

"Amsoil meets and exceeds API specs. "
really ?

you wish!

amsoil could NOT even meet minimum API test standards!
you want to spam for scamsoil
post the true facts bubba!



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12/17/2007
06:45:23

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yet another thread hijacked by the retards


Amsoil meets and exceeds the governments
voluntary minimum API specs.





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12/17/2007
12:15:18

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"Amsoil meets and exceeds API specs. "
really ?

you wish!

amsoil could NOT even meet minimum API test standards!
you want to spam for scamsoil
post the true facts bubba!

if they MEET and EXCEED API standards they they should be able to pass minimum API test!
So lets see the proof U twit



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12/17/2007
13:41:39

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AGAIN FOR THE Fücking RETARD

API is voluntary and not a mandate.

Redline is not API
Amsoil is not API
Not all Mobil oils are API
Some RP is not API

Who really cares about a gov't label
showing you meet minimum gov't API?

Amsoil exceeds minimum API certification!

GET A LIFE YOU Fücking RETARD.





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12/17/2007
13:54:10

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Amsoil has gone to Group III (hydrocracked dyno) in only their XL7500 motor oil which continues to have a 7500 mile drain interval. Their other oils (Amsoil Original Synthetic, Series 2000, Series 3000) all remain true synthetic PAO based with ability to go to extended drain intervals.



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12/17/2007
16:35:05

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LOL
TRUTH is amosil could only manage to get that 1 oil API certified!

all their other oils failed API minimum testing!
and that 1 oil is the very same as mobil-1
but at a much higher price!

ow and my owners manual says to ONLY use a API certified oil and changes to be done at 7500 miles!
not a single word saying i need special amsoil to do this
and hey guess what dum dum?
I've been doing my oil changes at 7500 miles
never had a single problem
and i'm close to 200,000 miles now
and never used anything but mobil-1

so stick that in your pipe and smoke it crack head




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12/17/2007
16:53:50

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PROOF POSITIVE

Amsoil is Approved for Dakotas and other Dodge vehicles:

DODGE DEALERSHIPS NOW CARRY AMSOIL

here is the thread on this forum:

http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/gen/16998.html




I LEARNED THE TRUTH ABOUT API


All vehicle manufacturers in the U.S. have agreed that a warranty cannot be denied because a customer was using any particular brand of oil that meets specifications, unless an engine failure was directly attributable to the fluid. If it is not a fluid related failure, they cannot void the warranty. The law supports this position.

Plus, the dealer/manufacturer has no way of telling what fluid you are using. How do I know? I am a former aircraft technician. I too was sceptical in the beginning. But now I am a believer.


Amsoil meets and exceeds API specs.

USE AMSOIL WITH CONFIDENCE!!!!!!!!!





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12/17/2007
17:50:07

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LOL
TRUTH is they only carry the 1 and only oil amosil could manage to get API certified!
and its group3 just like mobil-1
but at a much higher price

READ your owners manual you twit!

all their other oils failed API minimum testing!
and that 1 oil is the very same as mobil-1
but at a much higher price!

ow and my owners manual says to ONLY use a API certified oil and changes to be done at 7500 miles!
not a single word saying i need special amsoil to do this
and hey guess what dum dum?
I've been doing my oil changes at 7500 miles
never had a single problem
and i'm close to 200,000 miles now
and never used anything but mobil-1

so stick that in your pipe and smoke it crack head



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12/17/2007
18:36:45

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I have never had any issues when using Amsoil either



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12/19/2007
15:21:05

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marks the spot



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