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joey
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2/04/2002
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I just bought a 2002 dakota QC 4x4 with the v6 3.9L engine. It seems a little under powered and does not have the "get-up and go" on take off. Is there anything that can be done to improve either of these? especially the accelleration on take-off. I can't even spin the tires. Is this normal for this particular engine? Would a new gear ratio help?
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Jon
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2/04/2002
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I felt the same way when i got my 98 3.9L dak a year and a half ago. i was kinda dissapointed. right now i have put a K&N in and some flowmasters. there is a little bit of improvement but not much. it is frustrating whe nyou try to spin and you just cant, unless on gavel or something. also i just got new tired and i cant even power brake and burn on regular pavement unless it was just laid.
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Todd W
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2/04/2002
22:28:51
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That is why I got a stick... It will spin the tires on a second gear launch (and no, I'm _not_ revving to an ungodly level. Maybe 2200?).
Maybe a gear ratio change... probally a diffent Torque Convertor would help. I don't know too much about modding an automatic to make it go fast with the 3.9...
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DeaPee
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2/05/2002
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So you can't spin tire...what's wrong with that? I would say that's good design and a limited slip differential. Take the LSD out and you'll spin tire up and down the streets -- like a 4-cylinder ford ranger.
- Dave
- 01 RC SLT 4x4 3.9 BLACK
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Montag
Dodge Dakota
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2/05/2002
11:11:25
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Will it spin when you are turning at a stop sign?
The preformance out of the V6 is disheartening, but with an automatic it is down right pitiful. My truck will how ever leave a respectable cloud of smoke when I can get it to power brake. If I were you (and had the money) Joey, I would try to put a 318 in it.
92, RC, 3.9L, 4 speed auto, HD pakage
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Metalgreendak
Dodge Dakota
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2/05/2002
22:21:34
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Are you guys forreal my dak must having something done to it internally that I know nothing about because it really halls a$$ all the way to 90 and its a 97 3.9 x-cab with a 3.92 sure grip rear and right now I am running the crappy stock 15x7 rims with radial t/a's and they have good tread but if I want I can slam the pedal at a stop light and it will smoke up as it pulls forward and the sure grip kicks because in first gear it revs to 4800 rpms real real fast for me it revs and leaves a hop patch on turns and a good one on a straight but my dak v6 is lean and mean and I just smoked a 3.4l x-cab 2wd 5speed Tacoma tonight and this guy was serious about winning so I felt real good when I beat him he was doing good until I realized that I forgot to kick off the overdrive and as soon as I hit the O/D off I picked up that extra 500 rpms and I was gone and I shift at 35, 55, 85, 100 I think I know that it kicks down pretty good at 100 and has a smooth increase til 110 but I have never had it higher because I don't need to do any fast but I am sure that it could do 125 on a stretch because the gen 2 daks register 125
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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
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2/06/2002
00:18:01
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yeah its definatly normal. put intake and exhaust on and it becomes bareable, but u definatly cant spin the tires on dry ground although ive heard 4.7 autos cant either i dunno
why do u want to spin them so bad anyway? id rather have good accerleration from 30-60 that is where it really sux. what wrong with u getting a QC with a V6?? i only have a v6 cause i couldnt find a CC 4x4 with a V8 most of the QCs ive seen have V8s anyway. I actually just saw another LI blackdak that was a 4x4 V6 QC. good to know im not the slowest dak in the area hehe. (should have ordered a 2x4 loaded 4.7) oh well everyone is a good monday mourning QB
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Ryan
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2/06/2002
00:25:45
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i have the opposite problem. I spin too much even on dry pavement.
2000 Dak sport 3.9L V6
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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
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2/06/2002
11:27:39
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would that be a 5 speed?
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IntenseDak39
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2/06/2002
14:52:10
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when i bought my truck it was stock and had the factory tires on it (215/75/15 with 22,000 on the od). my truck wouldn't even spin those except for a little chirp every once in a while! i have since fixed that problem!;)
you talk about having a QC v-sixer...my friend has a V6 Ram.....can't even powerbrake it with out flooring it!
intensedak39
98 RC V6 auto modifications: LOTS ! ! !
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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
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2/06/2002
15:08:27
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what is going through someones mind when the opt for a 2.5 dak, a V6 QC or a V6 ram??? i know some people don't like driving fast but damn. Its harder to find V6 rams and 2.5 daks too. Those engines dont even save u that much money.
I need to get my head examined for getting a V6 4x4 but these guys need to be commited...lol
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2000Dakota
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2/06/2002
15:29:01
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I can smoke mine down to the rim! I have a 2000 Dakota Reg. cab automatic with a Jet power module, Magnaflow cat back exhauct, home made cold air intake and 33" tires. Get a Jet power module and burn them off!
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IntenseDak39
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2/06/2002
16:24:01
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if they (33") are all-terrains or mud-terrains, they spin easier....when i had my BFG's i was always spinning them...not enough tread on the ground i guess. my 255/60/15 had better traction then the wider allterrain....but i will agree; intake and exhaust help a lot on our V6s....they just don't breath well from the factory.
98 RC V6 auto modifications: LOTS ! ! !
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2000Dakota
Dodge Dakota
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2/06/2002
18:18:31
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Give it air! I have all terrain's on my truck. I'm considering more upgrades but not sure of what to do next. Cubes is where it's at so I guess I can only expect so much from a v6.
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IntenseDak39
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2/06/2002
20:12:27
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look at bernd's truck and other people's trucks around here......you can expect a lot if you know what your doing!
have any questions, just ask
98 RC V6 auto modifications: LOTS ! ! !
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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
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2/06/2002
22:12:04
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yo intense, can u take a stock V8?? or at least a V8 4x4?
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IntenseDak39
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2/06/2002
23:43:05
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yep.....stayed side by side with a RT and flipped the switch and smoked him...that was the only dak i ever raced
intense
98 RC V6 auto modifications: LOTS ! ! !
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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
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2/07/2002
01:06:37
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Really!!! i guess there is hope for me after all... atleast to be as fast as 4x4 V8s
how much u have invested in it intense???
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IntenseDak39
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2/07/2002
09:29:14
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approx cost to date
performance:
nitrous 580
rockers 340
headers 340
induction 240
jet chip 210
msd 6a 150
purge kit 110
msd wires 80
flowmaster 75
msd coil 30
modified TB free
suspension:
coilover kit 216
springs 75
ladder bars 359
misc:
hood 430
painting hood 390
hoosiers 398
in short....a lot....but a lot less than a RT!
i bought my truck for 13100 + 2155 (performance) = 15255 (i beat the rt with only the performance mods)
grand total spent on my truck (besides mantaince) is........17123.....not too bad
intense
98 RC V6 auto modifications: LOTS ! ! !
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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
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2/07/2002
12:12:03
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get it dynoed
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bernd
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2/07/2002
12:29:07
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Hehehehe....
270RWHP/355RWTQ - Wittle-ol-V6. ;)
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
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2/07/2002
12:35:19
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bernd, u race with the box in your bed, why not take it out and try??
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IntenseDak39
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2/07/2002
18:13:37
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because he wouldn't have a place to put his battery.....he he he ha ha ha ;p
98 RC V6 auto modifications: LOTS ! ! !
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Lesley
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2/07/2002
18:24:09
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Shoot, my tires squeal if I take off too quick - big deal, that just earns you those "you a$$hole" looks from people. Figure out what you want in a truck, if it's feasible, make some changes. If not, trade it for what will make you happy.
97 3.9 CC Sport. Black. Auto 3.55
Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers, Autolite 3923s, stainless Borla Turbo XL, V8 R/T TB,
FMS fuel injectors
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IntenseDak39
GenIII
2/07/2002
18:32:20
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if i saw you squeal your tires lesley....i would be like WHOA! A CHIC JUST DID THAT!
how are those injectors?
98 RC V6 auto modifications: LOTS ! ! !
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Lesley
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2/07/2002
18:59:42
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Shhh! The dak doesn't know I'm a chick!! The injectors are great, I got the TB, Borla & injectors all around the same time. Feels like a new truck. They are a good improvement for mid-range, and for what I paid for them, well worth it.
97 3.9 CC Sport. Black. Auto 3.55
Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers, Autolite 3923s, stainless Borla Turbo XL, V8 R/T TB,
FMS fuel injectors
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DAKNEEDER
Dodge Dakota
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2/07/2002
19:30:37
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ONE BAD CHICK!!! My dakota freakin slides when i mash it, i had to stop or else slide into oncoming traffic, and show a cop how bad ass I was. To the guys saying they can;t squeal, burn, whatever the f***, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR TRUCK???
~~Eric
Bernd, your truck fixed yet?
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DAKNEEDER
Dodge Dakota
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2/07/2002
19:35:46
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HEY, what air intake is the best?? GOTS TO KNOW
BTW, my truck is:
1998 Dodge Dakota
~3.9 V6 Auto
~3.55 gears
~Magnaflow muffler
~stereo installed tomorrow: Pioneer head unit, Infinity or RF(rockford Fosgate) components, 400W RF amp i bought off some guy whose never used it for $100, and at a later date, hopefully a 10 inch sub with 200 of the 400 goin to it.
What I want:
~Intake
~3.92 gears
~LSD
~17" RT rims
~3/5 Belltech or DJM lowering kit with Hotchkis anti-sway bars
~Tonneau Cover( soft or hard guys??)((the tonneau, sickos!))
~roll pan
~new grill(street scene or billet??)
~~Eric
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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
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2/07/2002
19:39:34
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I think 4x4s have a harder time spinning tires. Also its harder for autos
the more weight the harder it is to spin them...duh
also daks have OPTIONAL anti spin or limited slip differential or something, that might have something to do with it
but anyone who says they can't powerbrake has real problems...ugh
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youngin
Dodge Dakota
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2/07/2002
22:34:33
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I have a 99 3.9L auto and I can spin the tires all the time. I don't have any mods that i know of (I bought it used, previous owner was possibly a firefighter, it had a flash mod in the headlight assembly, so who knows if he did something to the engine) My tires would spin so much, that i almost got a ticket for it. On another note, whats this power brake you speak of?
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DAKNEEDER
Dodge Dakota
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2/07/2002
22:50:21
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only a good way to look cool. Try this: way #1, at a stoplight, sign, or in a parking light, in drive, step on your brake with a nice amount of pressure, then with your foot remainin applying the brake, step on the gas, mash or easy however, if you own a GOOD dakota, your rear wheels will spin as you leave rubber on the pavement and your fenderwells and maybe the bed(looks especially cool when you're pulling into a truck show). Way #2, with your car in neutral, brake applied, rev your engine, then go to drive your trans will slam(D'OH) and you will experience the same effect as in way 2. Caution: way 2 is more damaging to the tranny, be careful, use only around buddies or guys who are messin with you, to show them up!
Good Luck
~~Eric
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