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034x4qc4.7
Dodge Dakota
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9/29/2005
12:44:26
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I was looking up some old posts back in 2003. And thats when they came out with 4.10 and 4.56 for our IFS. All the guys were excited cause they were getting 4.10 for there 4x4s. weel i went to there websit today and all they have 3.92 gears for the front of our four wheel drives what gives does anybody have any information. I would like to get 4.10 for my 4x4 withen the next year or so it would be a huge improvment over my 3.55. Thanx for any info you migh have thanx.
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davec
Dodge Dakota
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9/29/2005
13:38:29
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They are out there. I have Mopar 4.10's in my 2wd Dakota. I don't know of a gear manufacturer that doesn't sell 4.10's. Call them and ask them. They might not list them on their website. by the way...make sure to change both the front and rear gears!
Dave
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034x4qc4.7
Dodge Dakota
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9/29/2005
16:26:38
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thats my point you have in your 2wd they sell them for the rear end but not for the front all they have for the front is 3.92
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Android287
GenIII
9/29/2005
22:56:32
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The front end is a chrysler 8" or also called 205mm. I did get my 4.10 from randy's. Give em a call i don't think they were listed on there website when i bought mine also.
My hobbies include my Dak, working out, lifting weights, and going to the gym.
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Horbedarn
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9/30/2005
00:49:58
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They are out there. I have 4.10 gears in my 4x4. They really hurt your gas milage though.
2000, CC, SLT, 4x4, 4.7, 4.10, Auto
Paxton Supercharger at 11 lbs. of boost
Custom 2.25" Y-Pipe, 3" High Flow Cat, 3" In/Dual 2.5" out under the bumper, 2.5” JBA Headers, 72mm TB, 3923's, 180 T-Stat, IAT Adjuster, Ignition Solutions Plasma Booster, Aquamist 2 Stage Water Injection, Hotchkis Sway Bars, Rancho RSX Shocks, Caltracs Traction Bars
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Android287
GenIII
9/30/2005
22:43:58
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Both Kowalski's and I, now get better gas milage with our 4.10's
My hobbies include my Dak, working out, lifting weights, and going to the gym.
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8banger
GenIII
9/30/2005
22:51:41
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Android287
What size tires are you running in your profile picture?
03 Dakota 4X4 QC SportPlus 4.7L 3.55 LSD AWD
Superchipped, 2Chamber Flowmaster Dumped, K&N Drop-in, 2"Torsion Lift
 MY 4X4'S BAPTISM
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Android287
GenIII
9/30/2005
23:12:28
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Stock tires 265/70r16
My hobbies include my Dak, working out, lifting weights, and going to the gym.
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8banger
GenIII
9/30/2005
23:24:17
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oh..they look big on your truck. Do they rub at all? I am planning on upgrading to 265/75/16's which would be 1" taller than yours and i wondering if they will rub. We both have 03 4X4's so they should have about the same clearance. Do you have your t-bars cranked at all in that pic?
03 Dakota 4X4 QC SportPlus 4.7L 3.55 LSD AWD
Superchipped, 2Chamber Flowmaster Dumped, K&N Drop-in, 2"Torsion Lift
MY 4X4'S BAPTISM
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GraphiteDak
GenIII
10/01/2005
00:58:35
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I've got mine cranked. Thinking of dropping my 2" home brew lift back down to 1". just for reliablity and to soften my ride back up a little.
Stock was too soft. Cranked up it's rock hard. Not too bad, but I hate knowing I've got my shocks and everything sitting at the upper travel limit.
I've got 255 65 16's. Same height as my stock 245 70 16's which are 29. something inches tall.
I wonder how Androind has 265 70's on his stock. unless he remembered wrong. Who knows... Those would be even taller than mine.
I'm thinking more the lines of 4.56's. I've seen them available at a few places. I'll have to look again.
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Android287
GenIII
10/01/2005
14:30:39
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Yup they are 265/70/r16. They probably look big on my truck because where i took the pic i was slightly down hill. In that pic my t bars are not cranked. They are now though and my trucks sits just shy of level.
The 265/75r15 will fit on your truck no problem. You may have to keep your t bars slightly cranked if you ever want to lower them. I was thinking of putting so tires on that size for the winter with some crazy tread pattern. Where i work we never close due to weather. And i mean never. Plus my friends and i like to go through un plowed parking lots to see if we can get stuck.
I'm thinking about putting some 285/60r16 on the truck for the spring and summer. That would be 29.4 inches tall and have a tread width of one inch wider than my current tires, according to all the manufacture specs.
Gotta love the superchips tire change capability.
Hey Graph you can always go bigger tires if you don't like the 4.56's. Good luck with the swap and hurry up, gears are a blast.
My hobbies include my Dak, working out, lifting weights, and going to the gym.
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8banger
GenIII
10/01/2005
15:38:24
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I want 4.56 too, i am just dreading the $1000+ it will cost to do them.
03 Dakota 4X4 QC SportPlus 4.7L 3.55 LSD AWD
Superchipped, 2Chamber Flowmaster Dumped, K&N Drop-in, 2"Torsion Lift
MY 4X4'S BAPTISM
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Kowalski
GenIII
10/02/2005
09:52:12
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I was tempted to go to 4.56 too; not a bad idea if you can adjust with tire size if it seems too low. Like Android says, I get slightly better milage with the 4.10 over 3.55. My 4.10s came from Randy's; they have them.
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BubbainGE
Dodge Dakota
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10/02/2005
13:15:31
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Graph, the 265/70-16s were listed as an option in conjunction with the tow package on my 02 QC. I honestly assumed that that was the most common size for these trucks
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ID4x4
Dodge Dakota
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10/02/2005
16:21:06
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My 01 cc 4.7 5-speed 4x4 came off the lot new with P265/70/16 Goodyear. Changed to a LT265/75/16 tire with a more aggressive A/T type tread almost immediately. Now that I have the Rancho lift with LT285/75/16 M/Ts, still weighing wether to go 4:10 or 4:56. Seems like in old posts, guys only liked the 4:56 for stoplight to stoplight fun or if they were really lifted on 35s.
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GraphiteDak
GenIII
10/02/2005
18:03:45
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Yeah. I am thinking that 4.10's would be BEST if I stayed with my size tires, 29's. 4.56's for SURE if I got closer to 31's.
Tough decision. If I can't find 4.56's for the 8" IFS up front, then my option will be more towards 4.10's obviously.
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Fed
Dodge Dakota
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10/02/2005
19:42:47
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hey guys how much would a new set of 3.92s be just for the rear of a '93 dakota??
are there any sites?
thanks
fed
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8banger
GenIII
10/02/2005
21:53:15
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you can get them on eBay for around $170-180
03 Dakota 4X4 QC SportPlus 4.7L 3.55 LSD AWD
Superchipped, 2Chamber Flowmaster Dumped, K&N Drop-in, 2"Torsion Lift
MY 4X4'S BAPTISM
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Android287
GenIII
10/03/2005
01:37:36
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Hey guys, this might help you out a bit on your decision of 4.10's or 4.56's
http://www.intercotire.com/site58.php
I spent a little while here doing some number crunching. Seems to be fairly accurate for my speeds.
My hobbies include my Dak, working out, lifting weights, and going to the gym.
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GraphiteDak
GenIII
10/04/2005
23:20:42
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Here was something I came up with a while back. For MY situation anyway. Makes it nice to see everything all at once...
Gears with 5-45RFE Auto |
60MPH 3rd gear |
60MPH O/D |
80MPH O/D |
3.55 |
2534 |
1748 |
2331 |
4.10 |
2927 |
2019 |
2691 |
4.56 |
3255 |
2245 |
2994 |
Gears with 5-45RFE Auto Shift Points at 6K
RPM |
1st Gear |
2nd Gear |
3rd Gear |
4th Gear |
5th Gear |
Dakota 5 speed auto
3.55 |
47 |
85 |
140 |
190 |
200+ |
Dakota 5 speed auto
4.10 |
41 |
73 |
123 |
164 |
179 |
Dakota 5 speed auto
4.56 |
36 |
66 |
110 |
147 |
160 |
I would go up 600RPM's in OD when doing 80MPH. I think I could handle that. And if it's too much. I'd swap out my 29" tires for 31" the next tire change.
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ID4x4
Dodge Dakota
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10/05/2005
01:53:28
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Nice post GRAPHITE.But, my problem is I have a 5-speed, i.e. a clutch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I am looking for TRUE MANUAL TRANNY, opinions are welcome
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