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02dak
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11/26/2004
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For now, until i have the superchips tunner, where is the best place to get gas, i still plan to run 87, but where should i get it. Anyone tried different places. Will it even matter?



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11/26/2004
09:56:04

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My 2004 4.7 seems to run best using Chevron gas.



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11/26/2004
09:59:05

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thanks for the reply, i tried to test some myself, and chevron was up there, but my butt dyno could tell no difference between chevron,shell, and bp. Any particular way you arrived at this conclution?



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11/26/2004
16:55:13

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I seem to get the same milage no matter whose gas I use - doesn't matter. Runs fine on all.

Lead, follow, or get out of the way

steveJ
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11/26/2004
21:38:52

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Since you asked.

I arrived at that conclusion like this:
1. Experience with different brands of gas in many vehicles over many years.
2. Chevron gas is delivered in Chevron tankers that come from Chevron storage and pumping stations.
3. Their gas costs more, but there's a "chain of costody". I know where it's been, what's in it (or, more importantly, what's not in it), and the quality seems consistent.
I can't say that about any other brand of gas in my neck of the woods, so that's what I buy. For those reasons, it's also what I recommend to anyone who asks what kind of gas to buy.

That's also why my engine is so happy.

If you're looking for performance boost by changing to a particular brand of gas, your "butt dyno" is gonna be awfully disappointed. The key is to use whatever brand of gas gives you consistent, reliable performance.

Since you asked.



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11/26/2004
23:02:19

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I think steveJ hit it on the nose.



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11/27/2004
18:35:21

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Check out http://www.post-gazette.com/transportation/20040104gratacoltrans2p2.asp
for an article similar to this question.

Most fuel in your area probably comes from the same refinery and through the same pipeline--the only difference between most brands are the brand-specific additives which are added, and these typically are a very small percentage of the total volume of the gas.

Gasoline is a commodity product, and the various brands spend a lot of money creating an illusion of differentiation from their competitors. SteveJ above makes a good case for being happy with Chevron, and others probably have similar loyalties. However, how many of us have done "blind tests" where we attempted to tell the performance difference between tanks of gas without knowing where they were bought? The brand probably has more to do with keeping the driver happy than with actually burning differently in the motor.



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11/27/2004
21:24:01

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I use the cheapest I can find and doctor it up with the amsoil
performance improver (0ne ounce per 10 gallons).

AWESOME STUFF !



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Kowalski
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11/28/2004
09:41:40

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I think "SR" hit it on the nose.

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11/28/2004
10:09:20

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If you require a high octane shell v-power has a high additive package and lots of people are reporting an increase in mpg`s over the same grade from other brands.



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11/28/2004
10:14:28

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With detonation resistant aluminum heads, the 4.7 is usually fine with regular.



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11/28/2004
18:08:31

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did you know that you can mix human fecies with gas to create an increase in hp and mgp? it works, the gases in the crap mix well with the gasoline



02dak
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11/28/2004
18:28:57

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hey, its all carbon! lol




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11/29/2004
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My wife has a theory about if my truck would only run on methane gas.....ahhh never mind.



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11/29/2004
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all that techron stevej is giving his engine could be responsible for his happy 4.7



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12/03/2004
21:54:48

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Most fuel in your area probably comes from the same refinery
I live in toledo and we have 2 refineries BP and SUN and Marathon and Shell have tanker fuel depots in the area and several others within an hour drive ( my bro-in-law works for Marathon in the corporate office) ONLY the independent stations buy from wherever, the rest are fueled from tankers with the corporate name on the side. Marathon owns 4 company brands that most do not realize are marathon indies. Starvin Marvins, Bonded, Gastown, and, oh heck right now I cant remember who the other one is. As far as each and every gas station getting thier gas from the same place that is just another one of those big URBAN LEGENDS that just ain't true.



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