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Here's why I think this Tornado thing doesn't work. First, the flow would have to be completely linear, as soon as you turn a corner, the effect is lost. And since the air going around a corner isn't any faster, the overall airflow isn't improved. Second, a fluid in tornado-like motion tends to force any heavier particles into the center. You'll notice that on those vacuum cleaners that create the same effect. Since this would force all the fuel into the center of your flowing air, the air/fuel mixture would be less than optimal. You actually want a little bit of turbulence in the fuel inlet point to properly mix the air and fuel.
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ukn071
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1/07/2003
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I thought it might have been a scam, and for once I was right. Like so many others I almost fell for the ol hook line and sinker. But looking over the internet I found so many bad things said about this product, the numbers don't lie!
I really hope that others see all the bad reviews that the TORNADO has received.
I bet if they would have sold it for a much cheaper price, a lot of people might have bought it without giving it a second thought.
Thank god they are greedy people, or I would have lost my hard earned money too.
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bdk1k
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1/12/2003
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here is why I think it works. First of all when the air passes through the inlet pipe it is in a turgid state as water is when it goes from a less restricted space to a freer space. That is the key, more surface area (relative turgidity)for the fuel to combine. The vortex being the most efficient mechanism for this. The pressure that is created might also create a mini-turbo charge effect further particulating the fuel.The columbia river gorge has the same effect(that is why all the windsurfers are there). It is called the venturi effect. The river gorge curves too but still retains its turbity. go back to sleep
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Joe
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3/02/2003
19:45:36
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The guy who invented this smokes dope with the one who invented the two magnets thing...Ha Save your money people, bank it, by a 4 cylinder and save gas that way.......
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Matt
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3/03/2003
00:11:35
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first problem, the tornado is advertised as a "supercharger" and its NOT one. There is no forced induction involved in the tornado. There is your first hint the whole thing is a scam. Second, everyone and their brother is trying to get more airflow through their intake, tb, intake manifold, etc. OK, well, then , why place an object there that is essentially just going to slow ariflow down and get in the way.. Also, Sport Compact Car did a Dyno of 3 cars w/ the tornado, can you guess..... YUP all 3 LOST HP. The whole thing is a rip off....
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Texas Todd
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3/03/2003
08:57:15
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I think this will be a never ending thread.
For those who think it works, send ME the money, and I promise, You'll see the same gains as with a tornado. I promise!
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Burnt Out
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3/03/2003
09:51:06
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Yep...rates right up there with Split-Fire plugs, 100 MPG carb and Whitney's engine rebuild in a can. Save your money and do a good tuneup and regular maintanence.
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liar
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3/03/2003
17:48:08
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i dun got that there tarnado , and had me a gallons per mile increse buy 1000 miles!! wooo hooo and i dun gained 190 horse power!!!!
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Zach
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3/03/2003
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On www.speedtweaks.net under the tips and tricks forum scroll to: "Throttle Body Spacers (Primarily the "Helix" style)". they had a similar product, read what the company wrote about their product.
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StevenA
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3/06/2003
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I'm not for the Tornado,BUT, the Tornado and a Spacer
are two VERY different things.The Tornado actually
makes the air spin as in a Vortex.The Spacer has
grooves machined or cast into its walls that are
suppose to either swirl the air or straighten it out
depending on manuf.
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Doc Tari
Dodge Dakota
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3/06/2003
08:47:25
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C'mon kids..TBS or Tornado. The difference is
that the spacer with the 'straightening grooves'
actually is supposed to do the right thing. It
allows the air to become denser in the thottle body not turbulent like the Torwacko. Gee now
why do they turbocharge and supercharge engines...
to get denser air? More power? Nah thats just
crazy. We know that turbochargers don't work.
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Texas Todd
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3/06/2003
11:08:33
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How does a spacer 'condense' air?
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ccman
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3/12/2003
11:17:01
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Yeah, I got one of those pieces of crap. I wish i would have read this post before hand. The only reason you save gas is because the airflow is restricted, my dakota runs awful, no acceleration! I am using less gas but it did not take me long to figure out why, I'm getting less airflow and there is no power when i step on the gas. Buy cooler plugs, they will help you save gas for about $60 cheaper.
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Texas Todd
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3/12/2003
11:49:34
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I was at the dealer this am, and the service writer told me that he's heard GOOD things about the tornado from some customers! He did qualify it by saying better MPG.
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global
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4/23/2003
22:51:36
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I got one for my husband's Ford-explorer xlt and he says he saves about 25-30% on gas each fill and the engine seem to have more power. So, I'm gonna get one too for my honda. I wonder if many of the negative responders have petroleum/gasoline connection HAHAAHA
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Postal
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4/24/2003
04:03:41
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Your husband also claims he's not banging your sister and we all know that's not true. You should consider divorcing that lying sack of pig sh1t.
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doc tari
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4/24/2003
09:23:57
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Its obvious the people posting gains of 25-30% were busy either laying pipe or smoking pipe during science class. Face it you got ripped off.
All you are doing is making a Korean guy who plays on TV with a couple of coke bottles rich.
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HotRodSRJ
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4/24/2003
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We tested this device on a chassis dyno and came up with about 14% less power? Didn't check the milage, but go figure.....less airflow and that requires less fuel per the computer. This device BLOCKS or creates parasidic drag and lowers volumetric efficiency.
One other point about "supercharging" that was mentioned. You can get performance intake systems to "supercharge", so to speak, by improving the Volumetric Efficiency (VE) of the system to the extent that the airflow is so effective that the inertia of the mass of the air flowing in the intake at a certain volume packs the intake with air at over 100% atmospheric pressure. VE can be improved with certain intakes, cams, combustion chambers, exhausts by improving flow. After all, you engine is just an air pump! There are alot of intake systems that enjoy VEs of over 100% without super/turbo charging mechanisms as we know them. A common example is a Winston Cup engine that is about 135% VE! This is how they make so much HP!
The general paper formula for hp looks like this for a typical WC engine. HP = Atmos Press X VE X cubes X peak RPM (cam related) X compression ratio / 744,000 (a constant for piston/race fuel engines) = 14.7 X 1.35VE X 358CU X 7800RPM X 10CR /744,000 = 745hp! Notice the VE over 100%.
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common sense
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4/24/2003
23:07:05
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couldn't you save fuel and flow more air by modding the MAS? i don't know what the MAS is like on a dakota but i know that this works very well for some other applications.
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HotRodSRJ
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4/25/2003
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The best way to improve milage is to also improve the volumetric efficiency (VE) of the engine.
Additions such as low restriction exhausts including headers, tuned low pass airfilters, performance intake changes and some computer timing issues, all will improve performance AND milage.
The least expensive would be cat-back tuned exausts, tuned air filter (like K&N) and a chip changeout. I think over four years, about $800 can be recouped in fuel savings alone to pay for such changes. Makes sense to me, plus sounds better and more torque for fun!
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Rapboy989
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4/29/2003
16:35:13
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Well I bought one I am going to see if it works if it does I will laugh at you if it doesn't well Just took a small risk I bought it on ebay for $20.00 w/Shipping so not as much loss as the 75.00 airheads out their shop around.
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woody
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4/29/2003
17:02:40
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look who calls the rest of us not STUPID enough to waste money on junk an airhead just look right immediately above this post. Next time send your money to Morons Is Me and make me rich instead if some gook.
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steveo989
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4/29/2003
17:26:28
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Also I heard if you got bad results its because it was used on small engine large engines it is supposed to work well.
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Rapboy989
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4/29/2003
17:35:04
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Have you even tried this product. If so nevermind if so how on the earth would you even start dising on people who bought this.
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Doc Tari
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4/30/2003
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We be dissing (its got two s's by the way) the people who bought this because anyone who would
probably also thought Gilligans Island was
reality TV.
Oh no...maybe you are right! A Korean guy with two plastic coke bottles, a schmuck with a microphone and a shop teacher in
LA has outsmarted a million
engineers all over the world and going back 120years. Newsflash....Mr. Kim is taking all his profits and is now working on his SARS cure.
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Rapboy989
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4/30/2003
16:29:37
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Hey Doc. Spell check have you tried it you have no idea if this works or if it doesn't base your acusations on evidence of your own not on what a bunch said about it because they're sceptical
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dkota_rt
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4/30/2003
17:42:22
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I have one on my Dakota R/T and I get 27 mpg and gained 70 horsepower. DUMB ASSES!!!!!!
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global
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5/13/2003
14:21:10
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Postal,
Just read your response with absolute shock. We can disagree without resorting to insults and personal attacks, can't we? I'm only sharing honestly what we have experienced. You can intelligently and in a civilized manner state your own objections based on your experiences. This type of abusive language isn't very helpful in presenting your own empirical case. Take care and go and see your preacher on Sunday and read your Bible before expressing your views with anger. GOD LOVES YOU :) Don't make it hard for others to love you and respect you too.
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yah
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5/13/2003
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I... I... I love you man!
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J_lethal
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5/18/2003
03:00:00
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HEy Global, God loves this too!..8======D (kiss my cock)
Why dont you put your stupid Tornado and shove it up your a$$, and so as your imbecile worthless of a husband of yours, take your born again bible and put it in his Explorer's fuel injector(sh!tty SUV FORD=Fix Or Repair Daily) and replace the Tornado with it...See and Realise, with Jesus's amazing powers, how YOU CAN save about 25-30% on gas each fill and the engine seem to have more power.
I KNOW WHY PEOPLE HERE ARE SO CYNICAL AND CRITISES THE GULLIBLE PEOPLE WHO SPEND THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY ON SUCH CRAP----oh riiiight, You critics own a Dodge Dakota!!!...HAHHAHA Dodge Dokota = Sorry piece of Sh!tty junk metal!....Sorry Dodge owners, but you losers have this gullible's void just to compensate your humiliation of buying a sh!tty Dodge!
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